Nutty Scientologist - Defending the Indefensible

A former Scientologist recently put up a video on youtube that allegedly shows Scientology President Heber Jentsch rambling on KFI Radio about his programs (front groups) that "helps" people (get indoctrinated and brainwashed). When the person in this video is successfully rebutting against the Scientologist claims, the Scientologist then goes off on a tangent telling them that "they are on drugs," drug pushers and any other comment that relates to drug enabling. He even goes off yelling at the person like a madman. He interrupts the person who is giving the rebuttle. This scientologist makes 4th graders look like adults. This sounds like the Westboro Baptist Church. Also it is pure comedy gold that is great for everybody from age 5 to 105.

NarCONon is a scam.. don't not take part in it. Keep hold of your thousands of dollars. Scientology have recently gave off false delimmas saying to others [including Anonymous], who are critical of these programs and any of their front groups including the cult itself, that if you are against - {Insert Program} here - in this case Narconon, then therefore you are against people getting better and getting off of drugs. That tactic is basic rhetoric fallacy known as the false dilemma. [The definition is below]. This two toned thinking leaves out other options: There are better programs out there that doesnt cost that much as narconon and have better results.

The informal fallacy of false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy) involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are other options. Closely related are failing to consider a range of options and the tendency to think in extremes, called black-and-white thinking. Strictly speaking, the prefix "di" in "dilemma" means "two". When a list of more than two choices are offered, but there are other choices not mentioned, then the fallacy is called the fallacy of false choice.

Scientology & Dianetics = Fascism?

This is a video deconstructed by the scholar of social sciences, 13heathens. He takes the final chapter of the book which Scientology was founded on, Dianetics, and tears it apart. Some of the language in the audio book is very disturbing. At one point the audio book states that: "Dianetics is not interested in saving the world. It is interested only in preventing the world from being saved." Scientology is clearly dangerous and the rhetoric from the dead cultist founder L. Ron Hubbard should be taken seriously. Thats why governments in the European Union such as Germany and France are taking action against Scientology becuase they lived through the memories of totalitarianism. Russia, which is not in the EU, had a massive student protest last week against Scientology becuase Scientologists prey on the first year students to join the cult. Religion should not be used as a cover for the purposes of taking over the world. Eventhough it might sound tin foily. Scientologists believe it or not, we all can read and understand the material. It doesnt take a scientologist to understand that Scientology is creepy in its own right. In Scientology's little world, they would be gung ho for this, but the world went through two world wars and a series of others that based on radical ideologies. Millions of people died because of someones ideology. Your radical 1950's paranoid ideology is not welcome in the 21st century. People shall not get hurt by Hubbard's schitzophrenic dream.

Something Fishy Is Going On In New Mexico

This event is the biggest classic comic book villain coming to life. The storyline goes as such: a villain does something evil, then when the hero is on to them, the villain secretly makes plans to move out to another facility which is more diabolical than the temporary facility. The hero breaks into the villains lair and expects to see something there is nothing there, everything is moved out. Nothing is there, it all vanished over night.

There is a case in New Mexico involves Scientology Second Chance Drug Rehab Facility. Many know that Scientology is a fraud, how can a science fiction writer even create a drug rehab center, he isnt credible to do it. News reports hit in about the credibility of the Secret Scientology Program - the Scientology don't want you to find out. Cloaked as a rehab facility, the media finds out about the methods, the relapse rates, and the people they serve, the Scientologist say thats all a lie, which is not. This happened during the beginning of Chanology (March 2008) More digging occurs and something is even more fishy. The state budget goes in and you want more money from the state, (May 2008). Some state leaders support drug rehab no matter who runs it, but others are very skeptical. More facts come out and they are being cornered. Then it blows over, inquest occurs and boom.

This article is from CBS affliate - KRQE News 13, Alberqerque, NM

Second Chance blew last chance?

Last Edited: Wednesday, 24 Dec 2008, 11:40 PM MST
Created On: Wednesday, 24 Dec 2008, 11:40 PM MST

• Reporter: Dave Bohman
• Web Producer: Bill Diven

ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) - Under cover of darkness Wednesday the troubled Second Chance rehab center mysteriously shuttled nearly 50 patients or inmates away from its facility just ahead of a deadline to explain who it's been housing.

Albuquerque police who put the West Mesa facility under surveillance said they witnessed the bizarre twist in the Second Chance saga early Wednesday. Later in the day the rehab program was under a 5 p.m. deadline to document all its inmates and clients to the city of Albuquerque.

The city wanted to make sure Second Chance wasn't violating its lease by taking inmates without a judge's referral.

Police said they caught a bus and a van sneaking people out.

"This is very disturbing," Chief Public Safety Officer Pete Dinelli told KRQE News 13. "I'm very disappointed."

Dinelli said received documents naming 46 people listed as patients or inmates at Second Chance. But he said he wants to know why 48 apparently additional people were bused out of the addiction-treatment facility early in the morning.

"I don't know if there's a public-safety issue, because I don't know what those 48 individuals were doing there," Dinelli said.

Police followed a van with eight individuals from Second Chance to Interstate 40 and then west until it left the city limits, according to Dinelli. Cops also tracked a bus with 40 others from the facility east to the St. Martin Hospitality Center, a shelter in downtown Albuquerque.

When News 13 went to St. Martin's Wednesday afternoon two workers closing up for the holiday said they did not know of anyone brought in.

So who are these 40 individuals with addiction problems? Were any of them sentenced to the facility as an alternative to jail, and where are they now?

"I think the city's entitled to answers, and we better get those answers," Dinelli said. "Otherwise we may be faced with a situation of evicting."

Bernalillo County Sheriff Darren White is among many critics of the facility's addiction-treatment plan that is based on the teachings of the founder of the Church of Scientology and includes vitamin and sauna treatments.

"If anything were to go wrong out there, we wouldn't even know what we're dealing with," White said. "This is a real safety risk for the people of Bernalillo County."

He said the busing of patients should mean no more chances for Second Chance.

"Shut them down," White said. "It's time to put them out of business."

However the city, which leases a former jail near the Double Eagle II Airport to Second Chance, isn?t quite at that point yet.

"We're going to be asking for a further explanation as to what happened this morning," Dinelli said.

News 13 attempted to reach Second Chance President Joy Westrum but instead got a return call from her number from a man who declined to identify himself. However he said he was speaking for Westrum in saying that News 13 was presenting "a false picture to the public."

However the man did not address any of News 13's questions.

If the city decides to evict Second Chance it would take at least 30 days. Dinelli said he'll spend this holiday weekend reviewing the documentation Second Chance provided late Wednesday.

Scientology is clearly playing cat and mouse. Coming in to a town at the whim of the night. Then leave like a thief in the night. The question is now: Where are the 8 people who skipped town? It proves that they are a flight risk and a nationwide manhunt should be in order. Fake Rehab, its more likely than you think.

Scientology Front Group Lies To Get Access To Children

LAS CRUCES [New Mexico] — The city is immediately ending an anti-drug program aimed at third-graders after it was revealed it was created and bankrolled by the Church of Scientology.

The “Drug-Free Marshal” program, started in late November, had only been presented to five schools but was intended to be promoted eventually among all third-graders in the Las Cruces Public Schools.

Scientology Dishonesty

Scientology’s recruitment tactics tend to be dishonest at best. People confronted by one the cult’s front groups are usually not informed of its ties to Scientology. Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbardhimself was a liar who actually condoned and encouraged lying and other unethical behavior

One Scientology front is a hate group that actively fights against psychiatry and psychiatrist.

The cult’s anti-drugs programs, including the Narconon front group - are Scientology fronts used to (among other things) infiltrate schools

In 2005, State Superintendent Jack O’Connell urged all California schools to drop the Narconon antidrug education program after a new state evaluationconcluded that its curriculum offersinaccurate and unscientific information.

Research resources on Scientology

Comments & resources by ReligionNewsBlog.com

Mayor Ken Miyagishima apologized Saturday and said it was not his intention to promote the religion. The mayor said he was approached this summer by Richard Henley, of Foundation for a Drug-Free World, who showed him a pamphlet adorned with the seals of El Paso, Espanola, the Rio Arriba County Sheriff’s Department and the Horizon City, Texas, and Socorro, Texas, Police Departments and asked if the city would “support eradicating drug use in the community.”

In small type at the bottom, the pamphlet is copyrighted by Foundation for a Drug-Free World, Narconon and Association for Better Living and Education, all Scientology programs.

“It’s my fault for not checking it out,” Miyagishima said. “This is something that I have to put an end to, this portion of it, since it was brought up to me.”

Since all the material was free, Miyagishima said he asked about the funding. He said Henley told him it was donated by a private individual who was interested in eradicating drug use.

“He gave me a couple of names, but not (founder and science fiction author) L. Ron Hubbard,” Miyagishima said.

Most of the literature deals with illegal drugs, but one pamphlet specifically focuses on Ritalin, considered by Scientologists to be a harmful and “mind-altering psychiatric drug.” According to Scientology.org, “psychiatry is not a science.”

Henley said Saturday the church was only one backer and that the material did not have a religious message, comparing it to the multi-faith origins of United Way.

Consumer Alert: Scientology Quackery

Medical claims within Scientology’s secret teachings

Scientology verses Medicine

The healing claims of Scientology

Scientology is evil; its techniques are evil; its practice is a serious threat to the community, medically, morally, and socially; and its adherents are sadly deluded and often mentally ill…(Scientology is) the world’s largest organization of unqualified persons engaged in the practice of dangerous techniques which masquerade as mental therapy.

- Justice Anderson, Supreme Court of Victoria, Australia, quoted at What judges have to say about Scientology

Learn more about Scientology’s front groups

Comments & resources by ReligionNewsBlog.com

“There is no religious message in any of the materials and the only message of Mr. Hubbard is in connection with the discovery of the toxins,” Henley said, also describing the foundation as “secular.”

When asked if he told Miyagishima about the connection with the Church of Scientology, Henley said “it’s all in the videos on the Web sites that they acknowledge (the connection between the pamphlet and the church).”

Henley also declined to say if the materials had been provided to other New Mexico schools, saying the requests had come from “individual teachers or classes … for two or three years.”

As for the foundation’s message against psychiatric medication, Henley said such prescriptions were up to a “medical doctor” or “medical physician,” terms used in Scientology to distance such doctors from psychology and psychiatry. But he was clear about what he said was the danger of such prescriptions.

“Every single one of the shooters in the schools have been on one form or another of these psycho-pharmaceutical drugs,” he said, though Scientology is opposed to far more than these drugs. According to the Scientology handbook, even aspirin will make someone “unfeeling, insensitive, unable and definitely not trustworthy, a menace to his fellows actually.”

The “Marshal” program was one part of Miyagishima’s “5-2-1-0″ fitness initiative, which also encouraged children to eat five servings of fruit and vegetables, spend no more than two hours watching TV, get an hour of exercise a day, and not to drink sodas — aspects which have recently been praised by U.S. Sen. Jeff Bingaman, Sen.-elect Tom Udall and the New Mexico Department of Health.

Only the “Marshal” program is affiliated with Scientology.

“I’m going to have to pull the marshal’s badge (program),” Miyagishima said. “First off, I’m not happy that I wasn’t fully informed, obviously, and two, that’s something there that I can’t be — the city can’t be seen as promoting any type of religious activity.”
[...]

- Source: Mayor abandons anti-drug program affiliated with Church of Scientology, Las Cruces Sun-News (New Mexico, USA), Dec. 7, 2008 — Summarize