Nutty Scientologist - Defending the Indefensible

A former Scientologist recently put up a video on youtube that allegedly shows Scientology President Heber Jentsch rambling on KFI Radio about his programs (front groups) that "helps" people (get indoctrinated and brainwashed). When the person in this video is successfully rebutting against the Scientologist claims, the Scientologist then goes off on a tangent telling them that "they are on drugs," drug pushers and any other comment that relates to drug enabling. He even goes off yelling at the person like a madman. He interrupts the person who is giving the rebuttle. This scientologist makes 4th graders look like adults. This sounds like the Westboro Baptist Church. Also it is pure comedy gold that is great for everybody from age 5 to 105.

NarCONon is a scam.. don't not take part in it. Keep hold of your thousands of dollars. Scientology have recently gave off false delimmas saying to others [including Anonymous], who are critical of these programs and any of their front groups including the cult itself, that if you are against - {Insert Program} here - in this case Narconon, then therefore you are against people getting better and getting off of drugs. That tactic is basic rhetoric fallacy known as the false dilemma. [The definition is below]. This two toned thinking leaves out other options: There are better programs out there that doesnt cost that much as narconon and have better results.

The informal fallacy of false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy) involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are other options. Closely related are failing to consider a range of options and the tendency to think in extremes, called black-and-white thinking. Strictly speaking, the prefix "di" in "dilemma" means "two". When a list of more than two choices are offered, but there are other choices not mentioned, then the fallacy is called the fallacy of false choice.

Scientology [Truthers] Nutjobs: Psychiatrists Did 9/11

From the Viliage Voice

What was really behind 9/11? Now it can be told, at least by Scientologists: psychiatry.

It should comes as no shock that Scientologists, who think psychiatry is behind all the great wrongs of the world from the Middle Ages forward, would also cause terrorism. Still, it's just perverse to blame psychiatry for 9/11. But that's what Dave Figueroa, president of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (founded by the Church of Scientology), does in this video clip from Xenu TV.

"To take a person who's very religious," says Figuero, "and turn them into a killing machine against their will... you need something behind that, you need something fairly powerful. And psychiatrists employ drugs and conditioning techniques in order to change people from what they normally would be into killing machines. And the terrorist factions that we hear about on TV, behind those individual acts of mayhem, you find psychiatrists, psychologists, and their drugs."

The host asks about Ayman al-Zawahiri, a prominent Al-Qaeda lieutenant, whom Figueroa says "was the force behind" bin Laden. The important thing about al-Zawahiri, says Figuero, is that "he's a psychiatrist." (No one's proven that he has that certification, but presumably in the caves of Afghanistan unlicensed practitioners also qualify.)

He further says that though bin Laden has become the "poster child for terrorism... his whole thought patterns and his entire viewpoint was changed by Zawahiri. And whatever types of drugs that Zawahiri used to make that change in bin Laden we don't know." But, he adds, "we know that there was a real change in that guy's attitude," which is our favorite line in the whole thing.

As to whether Zawahiri is "100 percent the person behind 9/11 or not, I don't know if we're ever gonna know," but "that ideology of terror was coming from bin Laden" -- who, we are reminded, "was influenced by a psychiatrist."

The host prods Figueroa to further explain the causes of terrorism, giving him an opening to mention the well-known, timeless forces of ideology and religion. But Figueroa sticks with "psychiatric drugs," among which he includes the amphetamines used by Kamikaze pilots in World War II. (Presumably psychiatry is also responsible for long-distance truck driving and Ted Haggard.)

Some other guy briefly appears to emphasize that Zawahiri is a psychiatrist and the "guy who runs" bin Laden, and the host offers you a pamphlet from which you may learn more. But you don't need a pamphlet to get the message: if you're depressed or anxious, don't go to a shrink or you may wake up with the blood of 2,752 New Yorkers on your hands.

Scientologist + Prozac

This video depicts how scientology stoops to new lows making fun of people by stating they take Prosac and Ritalin, drugs that scientology despises. Courtesy of AnonNation: This is the video of the Anonymous Protest to Free Katie Holmes from the clutches of Tom Cruise

Scientologist Nervous Breakdown

Breaking News - OT8 grade scientologist John Allender of San Jose Org commits a nervous breakdown at the sight of an anonymous protest.