A former Scientologist recently put up a video on youtube that allegedly shows Scientology President Heber Jentsch rambling on KFI Radio about his programs (front groups) that "helps" people (get indoctrinated and brainwashed). When the person in this video is successfully rebutting against the Scientologist claims, the Scientologist then goes off on a tangent telling them that "they are on drugs," drug pushers and any other comment that relates to drug enabling. He even goes off yelling at the person like a madman. He interrupts the person who is giving the rebuttle. This scientologist makes 4th graders look like adults. This sounds like the Westboro Baptist Church. Also it is pure comedy gold that is great for everybody from age 5 to 105.
NarCONon is a scam.. don't not take part in it. Keep hold of your thousands of dollars. Scientology have recently gave off false delimmas saying to others [including Anonymous], who are critical of these programs and any of their front groups including the cult itself, that if you are against - {Insert Program} here - in this case Narconon, then therefore you are against people getting better and getting off of drugs. That tactic is basic rhetoric fallacy known as the false dilemma. [The definition is below]. This two toned thinking leaves out other options: There are better programs out there that doesnt cost that much as narconon and have better results.
The informal fallacy of false dilemma (also called false dichotomy, the either-or fallacy) involves a situation in which only two alternatives are considered, when in fact there are other options. Closely related are failing to consider a range of options and the tendency to think in extremes, called black-and-white thinking. Strictly speaking, the prefix "di" in "dilemma" means "two". When a list of more than two choices are offered, but there are other choices not mentioned, then the fallacy is called the fallacy of false choice.
Sunday, February 8, 2009
Wednesday, February 4, 2009
Scientology [Truthers] Nutjobs: Psychiatrists Did 9/11
From the Viliage Voice
What was really behind 9/11? Now it can be told, at least by Scientologists: psychiatry.
It should comes as no shock that Scientologists, who think psychiatry is behind all the great wrongs of the world from the Middle Ages forward, would also cause terrorism. Still, it's just perverse to blame psychiatry for 9/11. But that's what Dave Figueroa, president of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (founded by the Church of Scientology), does in this video clip from Xenu TV.
"To take a person who's very religious," says Figuero, "and turn them into a killing machine against their will... you need something behind that, you need something fairly powerful. And psychiatrists employ drugs and conditioning techniques in order to change people from what they normally would be into killing machines. And the terrorist factions that we hear about on TV, behind those individual acts of mayhem, you find psychiatrists, psychologists, and their drugs."
The host asks about Ayman al-Zawahiri, a prominent Al-Qaeda lieutenant, whom Figueroa says "was the force behind" bin Laden. The important thing about al-Zawahiri, says Figuero, is that "he's a psychiatrist." (No one's proven that he has that certification, but presumably in the caves of Afghanistan unlicensed practitioners also qualify.)
He further says that though bin Laden has become the "poster child for terrorism... his whole thought patterns and his entire viewpoint was changed by Zawahiri. And whatever types of drugs that Zawahiri used to make that change in bin Laden we don't know." But, he adds, "we know that there was a real change in that guy's attitude," which is our favorite line in the whole thing.As to whether Zawahiri is "100 percent the person behind 9/11 or not, I don't know if we're ever gonna know," but "that ideology of terror was coming from bin Laden" -- who, we are reminded, "was influenced by a psychiatrist."
The host prods Figueroa to further explain the causes of terrorism, giving him an opening to mention the well-known, timeless forces of ideology and religion. But Figueroa sticks with "psychiatric drugs," among which he includes the amphetamines used by Kamikaze pilots in World War II. (Presumably psychiatry is also responsible for long-distance truck driving and Ted Haggard.)
Some other guy briefly appears to emphasize that Zawahiri is a psychiatrist and the "guy who runs" bin Laden, and the host offers you a pamphlet from which you may learn more. But you don't need a pamphlet to get the message: if you're depressed or anxious, don't go to a shrink or you may wake up with the blood of 2,752 New Yorkers on your hands.
Sunday, January 25, 2009
Scientology & Dianetics = Fascism?
This is a video deconstructed by the scholar of social sciences, 13heathens. He takes the final chapter of the book which Scientology was founded on, Dianetics, and tears it apart. Some of the language in the audio book is very disturbing. At one point the audio book states that: "Dianetics is not interested in saving the world. It is interested only in preventing the world from being saved." Scientology is clearly dangerous and the rhetoric from the dead cultist founder L. Ron Hubbard should be taken seriously. Thats why governments in the European Union such as Germany and France are taking action against Scientology becuase they lived through the memories of totalitarianism. Russia, which is not in the EU, had a massive student protest last week against Scientology becuase Scientologists prey on the first year students to join the cult. Religion should not be used as a cover for the purposes of taking over the world. Eventhough it might sound tin foily. Scientologists believe it or not, we all can read and understand the material. It doesnt take a scientologist to understand that Scientology is creepy in its own right. In Scientology's little world, they would be gung ho for this, but the world went through two world wars and a series of others that based on radical ideologies. Millions of people died because of someones ideology. Your radical 1950's paranoid ideology is not welcome in the 21st century. People shall not get hurt by Hubbard's schitzophrenic dream.
Tuesday, January 6, 2009
L. Ron Hubbard and Xenu
This is what scientologists believe but they will deny to any one if asked or question.... Xenu and Space Aliens. Just look at this video
Thirty Years After Jonestown, A New Dangerous Cult On Prowl
Taken from Pr-log.org
30 years after the Jim Jones cult, the Peoples Temple, massacre in Jonestown which hundreds of its adherents died; Scientology, a new more powerful cult is in America harassing, stealing from, brainwashing, and killing people.
Today marks the 30th anniversary of the Jonestown massacre in Guyana in which more than 900 American men, women and children were killed either by forced suicide by drinking Kool-Aid laced with deadly poison, lethal injection, or brutally shot and killed.
The tragedy took place in the Guyana interior in the Port Kaituma area known as Jonestown, named after Rev. Jim Jones, the cult leader, where he occupied several hundreds of acres and kept his congregation continuously under siege. However 30 years later, we are facing a similarity in America dealing with another cult disguised as a church - Scientology
Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple back in the 1970's seemed to be an honest organization that did food drives and charity work to help the City of San Francisco. Members of the Peoples Temple would show up at rallies at city hall and at various places within the area at a moments notice. The charity work that Jim Jones and his adherents did in San Francisco made him a major player in San Francisco politics. However, that charity which the cult did was actually a front to make their public reception image great. In actuality their members would get beat with 40 lashes by the leader for doing what appeared to be "crimes" against the Temple. Those crimes lead to fear and anxiety within its membership where people would rat each other out.
The beatings would put fear in which members if defected knew the consequences. Some defections occurred most notably in 1973, when eight mostly young members, commonly referred to as the "Gang of Eight", defected together. Because members of the Gang of Eight were aware of sinister threats to potentially defecting members, they suspected that Jones would send a search party looking for them. They were correct, with Jones sending out multiple search parties including one scanning highways from a rented airplane.The Gang of Eight drove three trucks loaded with firearms toward Canada, avoiding watched Highway 101. Because they feared bringing firearms over the Canadian border, they traveled instead to the hills of Montana, where they wrote a long letter documenting their complaints.
The Peoples Temple left a legacy that etched the minds of America how religious fanaticism can be at its worst. Now a new threat is more great than ever and it has been undetected, the Church of Scientology. Scientology is equally as dangerous as Jim Jones but more sophisticated in its methods and the amount of money they have. Scientology has front groups, just like Jim Jones to take on a nice false public persona - Volunteer Ministers, Way to Happiness Foundation, Youth for Human Rights, Citizens Commission for Human Rights, and Narconon (Not affiliated with the real NarcAnon).
In a letter to the LA local magazine, Curbed, a random person was creeped out with Scientologists coming to his doorstep as a search party looking for a "blown" - a person who hightailed from the Scientology - scientologist named Mary. This is similar to the search parties that Jim Jones launched over 30 years ago.
"Dear Curbed: I never had feelings one way or another about Scientologists (live and let live is my feeling), but three just came to my house in Echo Park. They were wearing that "uniform" they wear (aka fbi looking outfits) and the man Scientologist knocked on my screen door and rudely said "Did I know where Mary Somebody was?..." I guess she was the renter before me (I rent). He said they were from the Dianetics Center and then rudely asked me about Mary again, saying "I better tell him if I know her." Given his rudeness, I decided to fuck with him and pretend I did know Mary. So I said MAYBE I know her and then I said Please Leave My Doorstep. He didn't leave, but again asked me about Mary. So I go outside to the doorstep/porch where he is (it's a shared porch with four other renters, a cut-up house), and say again, Please Leave. One of the Scientology women yelled at me that the porch was public property and they could be there. Anyway, eventually they left. But I am wondering if indeed my doorstep/ porch and the whole property is at all "private"; ie, was that woman Scientologist correct that she could be there? I guess I don't "own" any of it, but my landlord, does, right? Thanks."
Scientologists behavior is similar to any adherent of any random cult. There are thousands of videos on YouTube documenting the behavior. They scream in peoples faces yelling similar questions such as "What are your crimes?" "Why are you affiliated with a deprogrammer?" "You are a criminal" This is an account from an Anonymous protester, they have been protesting Scientology for nearly a year, which occurred after the Anti-Prop 8 Rally in Los Angeles.
"During the small flashraid, we were ambushed. They were literally inches from our faces, yelling.Patty even, at one point turned around, bent over and slapped her ass at us like "kiss it". She kept calling us criminals, so I went up to her and said "Patty, you say I'm a criminal? Prove it. Explain to me and prove how I personally am a criminal." she kept trying to change the subject and generalize, then eventually said "You are a criminal, I'll bet several of you are going to jail soon. I know you are a liar and a criminal and I'm sure we'll be able to figure out your crimes soon." I said "So you can't prove that I'm a criminal?" She said "No, I can't. But I will figure out your crimes."
Once we decided to leave, we were immediately followed. We stopped at a gas station and 3 of them stood across the street, waiting for us, screaming our names and barking at us. We continued to walk and they followed us for literally 2 miles.
When the woman passing by asked us what we were doing (masks and such), we gave her a flyer and started talking to her a bit. She said "some of the accusations are pretty intense. It's almost hard to believe." I explained that it is, but we have court documents and personal stories from people who have first have experienced it. Immediately after, Patty started going on and on about how we were bigot cyberterrorists and to not listen to us because we were full of lies. The woman started asking her questions and Patty continued to make herself look completely insane and yell at this poor woman, telling her how she was wrong, how I was evil, etc etc..and Patty kept saying that all she wanted to do was communicate with us. I turned around and said "You say that..." and Patty cut me off. I said "I've tried communicating wi..." and she cut me off to yell yet again. "Patty, I've tried to.." again and again. I explained to the woman "you see? Communication isn't what she wants." and the more Patty talked to this woman, the more she started questioning Patty and explaining to her she was just helping our cause and making herself and her church look worse. We eventually parted ways and Patty continued to follow us.
Please note that while they followed us, screaming at us, screaming our names, etc, we never once responded to her, or gave her the word battle she so desperately wanted. We just kept walking.
When we got to our friend's house, Patty and the gang walked right up to the front of the lawn and accused Empress of harassing them, or being stalking terrorists, etc...many of the neighbors were outside and watching at this point and witnessed the entire thing. We went inside, stayed for about 45 min and when we left, Patty and Co. were STILL outside. Standing on the sidewalk, in the dark, waiting for us."
Scientology has a crazy reputation that parallels Jim Jones. It roams around undetected but in the end people get hurt and even die.
Videos:
Mind Control Made Easy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
Scientology - What Are Your Crimes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc
Scientology Followers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y
Scientology Compound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw1pHKJKBY
Scientology Behavior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyTQp6u7s7U
30 years after the Jim Jones cult, the Peoples Temple, massacre in Jonestown which hundreds of its adherents died; Scientology, a new more powerful cult is in America harassing, stealing from, brainwashing, and killing people.
Today marks the 30th anniversary of the Jonestown massacre in Guyana in which more than 900 American men, women and children were killed either by forced suicide by drinking Kool-Aid laced with deadly poison, lethal injection, or brutally shot and killed.
The tragedy took place in the Guyana interior in the Port Kaituma area known as Jonestown, named after Rev. Jim Jones, the cult leader, where he occupied several hundreds of acres and kept his congregation continuously under siege. However 30 years later, we are facing a similarity in America dealing with another cult disguised as a church - Scientology
Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple back in the 1970's seemed to be an honest organization that did food drives and charity work to help the City of San Francisco. Members of the Peoples Temple would show up at rallies at city hall and at various places within the area at a moments notice. The charity work that Jim Jones and his adherents did in San Francisco made him a major player in San Francisco politics. However, that charity which the cult did was actually a front to make their public reception image great. In actuality their members would get beat with 40 lashes by the leader for doing what appeared to be "crimes" against the Temple. Those crimes lead to fear and anxiety within its membership where people would rat each other out.
The beatings would put fear in which members if defected knew the consequences. Some defections occurred most notably in 1973, when eight mostly young members, commonly referred to as the "Gang of Eight", defected together. Because members of the Gang of Eight were aware of sinister threats to potentially defecting members, they suspected that Jones would send a search party looking for them. They were correct, with Jones sending out multiple search parties including one scanning highways from a rented airplane.The Gang of Eight drove three trucks loaded with firearms toward Canada, avoiding watched Highway 101. Because they feared bringing firearms over the Canadian border, they traveled instead to the hills of Montana, where they wrote a long letter documenting their complaints.
The Peoples Temple left a legacy that etched the minds of America how religious fanaticism can be at its worst. Now a new threat is more great than ever and it has been undetected, the Church of Scientology. Scientology is equally as dangerous as Jim Jones but more sophisticated in its methods and the amount of money they have. Scientology has front groups, just like Jim Jones to take on a nice false public persona - Volunteer Ministers, Way to Happiness Foundation, Youth for Human Rights, Citizens Commission for Human Rights, and Narconon (Not affiliated with the real NarcAnon).
In a letter to the LA local magazine, Curbed, a random person was creeped out with Scientologists coming to his doorstep as a search party looking for a "blown" - a person who hightailed from the Scientology - scientologist named Mary. This is similar to the search parties that Jim Jones launched over 30 years ago.
"Dear Curbed: I never had feelings one way or another about Scientologists (live and let live is my feeling), but three just came to my house in Echo Park. They were wearing that "uniform" they wear (aka fbi looking outfits) and the man Scientologist knocked on my screen door and rudely said "Did I know where Mary Somebody was?..." I guess she was the renter before me (I rent). He said they were from the Dianetics Center and then rudely asked me about Mary again, saying "I better tell him if I know her." Given his rudeness, I decided to fuck with him and pretend I did know Mary. So I said MAYBE I know her and then I said Please Leave My Doorstep. He didn't leave, but again asked me about Mary. So I go outside to the doorstep/porch where he is (it's a shared porch with four other renters, a cut-up house), and say again, Please Leave. One of the Scientology women yelled at me that the porch was public property and they could be there. Anyway, eventually they left. But I am wondering if indeed my doorstep/ porch and the whole property is at all "private"; ie, was that woman Scientologist correct that she could be there? I guess I don't "own" any of it, but my landlord, does, right? Thanks."
Scientologists behavior is similar to any adherent of any random cult. There are thousands of videos on YouTube documenting the behavior. They scream in peoples faces yelling similar questions such as "What are your crimes?" "Why are you affiliated with a deprogrammer?" "You are a criminal" This is an account from an Anonymous protester, they have been protesting Scientology for nearly a year, which occurred after the Anti-Prop 8 Rally in Los Angeles.
"During the small flashraid, we were ambushed. They were literally inches from our faces, yelling.Patty even, at one point turned around, bent over and slapped her ass at us like "kiss it". She kept calling us criminals, so I went up to her and said "Patty, you say I'm a criminal? Prove it. Explain to me and prove how I personally am a criminal." she kept trying to change the subject and generalize, then eventually said "You are a criminal, I'll bet several of you are going to jail soon. I know you are a liar and a criminal and I'm sure we'll be able to figure out your crimes soon." I said "So you can't prove that I'm a criminal?" She said "No, I can't. But I will figure out your crimes."
Once we decided to leave, we were immediately followed. We stopped at a gas station and 3 of them stood across the street, waiting for us, screaming our names and barking at us. We continued to walk and they followed us for literally 2 miles.
When the woman passing by asked us what we were doing (masks and such), we gave her a flyer and started talking to her a bit. She said "some of the accusations are pretty intense. It's almost hard to believe." I explained that it is, but we have court documents and personal stories from people who have first have experienced it. Immediately after, Patty started going on and on about how we were bigot cyberterrorists and to not listen to us because we were full of lies. The woman started asking her questions and Patty continued to make herself look completely insane and yell at this poor woman, telling her how she was wrong, how I was evil, etc etc..and Patty kept saying that all she wanted to do was communicate with us. I turned around and said "You say that..." and Patty cut me off. I said "I've tried communicating wi..." and she cut me off to yell yet again. "Patty, I've tried to.." again and again. I explained to the woman "you see? Communication isn't what she wants." and the more Patty talked to this woman, the more she started questioning Patty and explaining to her she was just helping our cause and making herself and her church look worse. We eventually parted ways and Patty continued to follow us.
Please note that while they followed us, screaming at us, screaming our names, etc, we never once responded to her, or gave her the word battle she so desperately wanted. We just kept walking.
When we got to our friend's house, Patty and the gang walked right up to the front of the lawn and accused Empress of harassing them, or being stalking terrorists, etc...many of the neighbors were outside and watching at this point and witnessed the entire thing. We went inside, stayed for about 45 min and when we left, Patty and Co. were STILL outside. Standing on the sidewalk, in the dark, waiting for us."
Scientology has a crazy reputation that parallels Jim Jones. It roams around undetected but in the end people get hurt and even die.
Videos:
Mind Control Made Easy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
Scientology - What Are Your Crimes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocw90W44Boc
Scientology Followers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y
Scientology Compound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw1pHKJKBY
Scientology Behavior
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyTQp6u7s7U
Scientology Lies About Medical Treatment.
Scientology is caught lying once again. This time they claim that they say they dont oppose medical treatment of certain illnesses which are neurologically related. With the news of Jett Travolta coming out, questions of fake medical claims by scientology are out. Millions of people are outraged against the scientology cult.
Anon News discovered a California State Bill which highlights Autism and Treatment via Mental Health. Scientology opposed the bill. Here is the shorten text of the bill. CCHR (citizens comission for human rights) is a scientology front group.
SENATE HEALTH
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
Senator Sheila J. Kuehl, Chair
BILL NO: SB 1563
S
AUTHOR: Perata & Steinberg
B
AMENDED: As Introduced
HEARING DATE: April 16, 2008
1
FISCAL: Appropriations
5
CONSULTANT:
6
Park/sh
3
SUBJECT
Pervasive developmental disorders
SUMMARY
Requires the Department of Managed Health Care (DMHC) and
the California Department of Insurance (CDI) to jointly
review the Department of Developmental Services' (DDS)
standards and guidelines on the screening, diagnosis,
assessment, intervention, and treatment of autism and
pervasive developmental disorders, and to develop
recommendations to ensure that health care service plans
and health insurers provide appropriate and equitable
coverage for those illnesses. Requires those departments to
submit these recommendations to the Legislature by October
1, 2009.
...
Arguments in opposition
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights believes that there
is no known medical treatment for autism except off-label drugs.
---
For full analysis read:
California Senate Bill 1563
Anon News discovered a California State Bill which highlights Autism and Treatment via Mental Health. Scientology opposed the bill. Here is the shorten text of the bill. CCHR (citizens comission for human rights) is a scientology front group.
SENATE HEALTH
COMMITTEE ANALYSIS
Senator Sheila J. Kuehl, Chair
BILL NO: SB 1563
S
AUTHOR: Perata & Steinberg
B
AMENDED: As Introduced
HEARING DATE: April 16, 2008
1
FISCAL: Appropriations
5
CONSULTANT:
6
Park/sh
3
SUBJECT
Pervasive developmental disorders
SUMMARY
Requires the Department of Managed Health Care (DMHC) and
the California Department of Insurance (CDI) to jointly
review the Department of Developmental Services' (DDS)
standards and guidelines on the screening, diagnosis,
assessment, intervention, and treatment of autism and
pervasive developmental disorders, and to develop
recommendations to ensure that health care service plans
and health insurers provide appropriate and equitable
coverage for those illnesses. Requires those departments to
submit these recommendations to the Legislature by October
1, 2009.
...
Arguments in opposition
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights believes that there
is no known medical treatment for autism except off-label drugs.
---
For full analysis read:
California Senate Bill 1563
Monday, January 5, 2009
Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard on Epilepsy
EXPANDED DIANETICS LECTURE No.2
A lecture given to the Flag Dianetic Auditing Team on 7 April 1972.
C7204C07 SO
EXPANDED DIANETICS AND WORD CLEARING
Here is the text of this bit:
"And then people who have epilepsy, which is a type of disease which gives them seizures, are almost always found on some minor drug that prevents them from getting these—they call them petit mal seizures. That’s epilepsy. I don’t care how they call it. Sometimes they really seize and sometimes it’s just slight. One of those, if an epileptic ever took you by the hand and so forth, he’s liable to break every bone in your hand, if he suddenly had a seizure. But the doctors keep them on something to prevent this. It’s just a tranquilizer and they keep them on that one year, year in and year out. And then you come along as an auditor and you try to audit the pc and you tell the pc that he’ll have to go off that drug. And then all of a sudden, why something will happen from someplace or another that the pc will tell the doctor that they have been taken off the drug by the auditor. And the doctor will call up plaintively asking you to please put her back on the drug because she needs this. And you get into a collision between medical treatment and so on. Now I’ve been using a lot of medical words here or chemical words really. Just don’t pay any attention to them because they’re mostly gobbledygook, and there’s an awful lot of gobbledygook words. Gobbledygook just means nonsense chatter, you see. There’s an awful lot of them."
A lecture given to the Flag Dianetic Auditing Team on 7 April 1972.
C7204C07 SO
EXPANDED DIANETICS AND WORD CLEARING
Here is the text of this bit:
"And then people who have epilepsy, which is a type of disease which gives them seizures, are almost always found on some minor drug that prevents them from getting these—they call them petit mal seizures. That’s epilepsy. I don’t care how they call it. Sometimes they really seize and sometimes it’s just slight. One of those, if an epileptic ever took you by the hand and so forth, he’s liable to break every bone in your hand, if he suddenly had a seizure. But the doctors keep them on something to prevent this. It’s just a tranquilizer and they keep them on that one year, year in and year out. And then you come along as an auditor and you try to audit the pc and you tell the pc that he’ll have to go off that drug. And then all of a sudden, why something will happen from someplace or another that the pc will tell the doctor that they have been taken off the drug by the auditor. And the doctor will call up plaintively asking you to please put her back on the drug because she needs this. And you get into a collision between medical treatment and so on. Now I’ve been using a lot of medical words here or chemical words really. Just don’t pay any attention to them because they’re mostly gobbledygook, and there’s an awful lot of gobbledygook words. Gobbledygook just means nonsense chatter, you see. There’s an awful lot of them."
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